MEET THE REP-PP CLASS OF 2020-2021

Welcome to the Residency Externship Program in Public Policy

Meet our students
: Learn more about the students participating in the Spring 201​​9 T​exas A&M School of Law Residency Externship Program in Public Policy in Washington, D.C. and Austin, Texas.

Learn what our students have to say about the program: Each year, students in the Residency Externship Program in Public Policy (REP-PP) contribute to the REP-PP website through blog posts.  In addition to the “Meet the Students” blog posts, each student submits at least one post centered around one of the Aggie Core Values - Loyalty, Excellence, Integrity, Leadership, Respect and Selfless Service. Check back often to see how our students are progressing in their externships and exemplifying our Aggie Core Values.

Texas A&M Law Residency Externship Program in Public Policy Class of 2020-2021

The Texas A&M School of Law Residency Externship Program in Public Policy is pleased to announce the 2020-2021 Class of law students who will be representing the school in Austin, Texas and Washington, D.C. This year’s class represents the continued commitment to public service that has been a hallmark of the law school’s student body and the participants in this Program.

The 2020-2021 Class includes:

Austin, Texas: 
  • Lorraine Garcia, Class of 2021
  • Lillian Goebel, Class of 2022
Washington, D.C.:
  • Ramah Jaradat, Class of 2021  
  • Justin Wolf, Class of 2021

These highly talented students are well-prepared to take on their policy placements with the support of Texas A&M School of Law’s innovative policymaking curriculum, which includes perquisites in administrative law, legislation and statutory interpretation, policy drafting, and a unique Winter Term boot camp course designed to prepare students for the ethical and political environment they will engage in during the spring semester.

The Program is supported by two adjuncts, Tom Krampitz in Fort Worth and Austin, and Kerry Kinirons in Washington, D.C., who guide students through a policy-based seminar and bring in the biggest names in local, state, and federal policymaking to engage students in a small class setting on current issues.


Lorraine Garcia
Student NameLorraine Garcia
​Law School Year:  ​​2L, ​Spring 2021 Graduate

Meet Lorraine

Why did you decide to participate in the REP-PP?
Public policy is a true passion of mine. Both my professional and lived experiences have shown me that many of the disparities among minority communities can be solved through policy, and I’m dedicated to working towards those solutions.

What are you most excited about as you prepare for your REP-PP externship?

I love the excitement of the Texas Capitol — there’s so much going on and so many opportunities to work towards a common goal.

What skills do you hope to gain from your experiences in the REP-PP?

I’m looking forward to better understanding the procedural aspect of the Texas Legislature; particularly, the points of order that can be used to both promote and stop legislation from passing.

How do you think this opportunity will help you develop as a lawyer?

Learning how to write policy that can withstand judicial review is going to be incredible, and working directly with policy makers will certainly help me develop that skill.

How does your participation in the REP-PP demonstrate the Aggie Core Values?
(Excellence, Integrity, Leadership, Loyalty, Respect, Selfless Service)

I look forward to demonstrating the Aggie Core Values as a law student at the Texas Capitol, so that Texas legislators look to hire Aggie lawyers in the years to come.

What are your personal goals for your semester in the REP-PP?
I aim to become a valuable member of the team I’m on and to contribute meaningful work.


Lillian Goebel
Student NameLillian Goebel
​Law School Year:  ​​2L, ​Spring 2021 Graduate

Meet Lillian 

Why did you decide to participate in the REP-PP?
I decided to participate in the Public Policy Externship due to the extremely positive experience I had when I worked during the previous session. During the Spring of 2019, I worked for a lobbyist at the Texas Capitol during the 86th legislative session and thoroughly enjoyed it. It was that internship that sparked my interest in Public Policy. It was fascinating for me to see how a bill starts out and the extensive process that it goes through in order to become a bill. I particularly enjoyed hearing testimony on the bills. People from all over Texas would come to testify on matters that they were passionate on and that directly affected them. Through this, I was able to see how these bills really do impact the lives of real people in meaningful ways.

My purpose for partaking in the public policy externship is to diversify my experiences and make myself an asset to future employers or clients, while gaining an in-depth understanding of the formation of the laws that will regulate my area of practice. Working at the Texas Capitol during the legislative session will help me expand my skillset for my future endeavors as a lawyer and businesswoman. I believe it is extremely important to diversify one’s experiences as much as possible in order to make well-rounded and informed decisions.

What are you most excited about as you prepare for your REP-PP externship?

I think it will be interesting to see how COVID-19 will affect the type of legislation we see this session. I am interested to see how the current health crisis will affect the priority of certain bills. Getting to participate in the Legislative Session during a national health crisis will be really meaningful work and I hope to help facilitate positive legislation that will help Texans during this trying time.

What skills do you hope to gain from your experiences in the REP-PP?

Through this externship, I hope to strengthen my policy analysis skills and to put what I have learned in the classroom into practice. I also hope to expand my own perspectives and be able to consider a variety of points of view as I work on the matters that come through the Business and Commerce Committee.

How do you think this opportunity will help you develop as a lawyer?

I recognize the tremendous benefits that the Public Policy Externship has to offer, as I plan to work in real estate and business law. I intend to remain in Texas for the majority of my career, and believe it is important to be involved and informed as to how the local laws are made and the reasoning behind them in order to better serve my clients in the most ethical manner.

How does your participation in the REP-PP demonstrate the Aggie Core Values?
(Excellence, Integrity, Leadership, Loyalty, Respect, Selfless Service)

I believe that by participating in this externship, it will challenge me in new and meaningful ways and push me to achieve excellence. I also believe that this externship will require a great deal of integrity as I will be dealing with lots of sensitive information.

What are your personal goals for your semester in the REP-PP?
My personal goals for my semester in the Public Policy Program are to make meaningful and long-lasting relationships, gain an in-depth understanding of business and commerce through bill analysis, and to positively represent the Aggie name. I am also really looking forward to taking some time to enjoy all that Austin has to offer!


Ramah Jaradat
Student NameRamah Jaradat
​Law School Year:  ​​2L, ​Spring 2021 Graduate

Meet Ramah

Why did you decide to participate in the REP-PP?
I have been wanting to do this program since I was a 1L; I am really interested in a career in federal public policy and this program will allow me to work and learn in a field that I am truly passionate about. This program will enable me to gain the skills and knowledge to succeed in this career path after law school. I also met with several lawyers who told me how important it is to get engaged in the city I want to work and live in as soon as possible; this program is especially important because I plan to move to Washington D.C. after law school, and since D.C. is very competitive for lawyers, I wanted to establish myself early.

What are you most excited about as you prepare for your REP-PP externship?

I am very excited to be working in the city that I plan to move to after law school - Washington D.C. - and to immerse myself in the public policy sector up there. I am excited to finally get to do something that will feel fulfilling to me! I am also very excited for the people I will network with and meet in D.C.

How do you think this opportunity will help you develop as a lawyer?

I hope to enhance my communication, negotiation, and leadership skills, and make the connections I need to succeed. I hope to gain first-hand experience of policy and regulatory work, because you can only learn so much in class. I also would like my confidence to match my knowledge, which I know can be done by participating in programs such as these. As a lawyer, this opportunity will be extremely beneficial to me because I plan on practicing law and getting involved in public policy in D.C. This program will allow me to make the connections, gain the necessary experience, and put myself out there in a city that is already highly competitive for lawyers.

How does your participation in the REP-PP demonstrate the Aggie Core Values?
(Excellence, Integrity, Leadership, Loyalty, Respect, Selfless Service)

I believe that by participating in a program that seeks to improve our skills and experience in something we are passionate about, we are able to strive for excellence and leadership. These experiences will show us the ways in which we can improve ourselves, to allow us to be excellent. Participation in this program means that we represent Texas A&M to others, so we must be our most professional, respectful selves. Moving to a new city, outside of our comfort zone, to work in a field that has the potential to affect many people really embodies the core value of selfless service. This program allows those who participate in it to represent themselves and the institution by being respectful, diligent, and the best that we can be.

What are your personal goals for your semester in the REP-PP?
I want to work diligently in my placement to learn as much as I can about public policy and regulatory law. I really want to continue to improve my communication skills and become more confident in my knowledge and abilities. Experiences through this program will allow my confidence to match my knowledge. It is also a goal of mine to meet with as many professionals as I can, to learn from them, and to establish core connections that will be valuable to me for years.


Justin Wolf
Student NameJustin Wolf
​Law School Year:  ​​2L, ​Spring 2020 Graduate

Meet Justin

Why did you decide to participate in the REP-PP?
This program is the reason why I decided to attend Texas A&M University School of Law. I knew coming into law school that I was going to pursue a policy-oriented career in Washington, D.C. I knew the Residency Externship Program in Public Policy would provide me with the opportunity to get more practical experience in the field before I graduated, and I have counted down the days until I could get back to work.

What are you most excited about as you prepare for your REP-PP externship?

I am really excited to utilize my legal education and previous political/policy experience in an agency setting. I feel I have a lot more to offer substantively now that I am nearing the end of law school, so it will be fun to be able to continue learn more about the field while contributing at the same time.

What skills do you hope to gain from your experiences in the REP-PP?

I hope to build on my research skills. Additionally, I hope to continue to develop as a law student (soon to be lawyer) to get a better understanding of what being a lawyer in a political/policy-oriented position entails. Finally, I hope to get a better understanding of how large federal agencies operate.

How do you think this opportunity will help you develop as a lawyer?

I believe this opportunity will give me the opportunity to continue to utilize my legal education and prior political/policy experience in a real world situation. I will be in a very small office within a large federal agency so I will be able to get great hands-on experience working on substantive assignments. This experience will be crucial in ensuring that I am prepared for a future career in the field.

How does your participation in the REP-PP demonstrate the Aggie Core Values?
(Excellence, Integrity, Leadership, Loyalty, Respect, Selfless Service)

I believe my participation in the Residency Externship Program exemplifies the Aggie Core Values because simply participating in a public policy role requires you to embody each of the core values. Despite my very small role in a large agency (and an even larger government) I believe each person has the opportunity to make a difference, and it is important that each person in a public policy role faithfully adheres to the values of excellence, integrity, leadership, loyalty, respect, and selfless service.

What are your personal goals for your semester in the REP-PP?
I hope to take advantage of living in Washington, D.C. as much as I can. Covid-19 has definitely complicated things, but I hope to make connections in the field, explore D.C. a little more, and prepare to hopefully make D.C. my home when I graduate.